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i'm not talking of endangered species, which are in captivity as part of a release back into the wild program or breeding program.

i'm on about putting animals in theme parks just to entertain?
at least the japanese eat use the animals for food.
personally i think that the animals they have should be realsed or di out through natural causes with huge fines for anyone capturing and using new ones.

by the way. the story's about a killer whale that killed someone...the irony of it.

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they should defenitely shut down those parks,anything with wild animals doing little tricks for our entertainment,digusting.

Benny2guns

I get a kick out of people, really I do. We have always kept animals in captivity for our own amusement and we always will. All animals were once wild till we domesticated them. There are far more pressing issues on the table to be distracted with this bleeding heart kind of distraction. Just my opinion but come on people there are people being killed every day and don't get a seconds oh my god out of anyone. We just shut the fuck up and hope it's all bullshit and turn our eyes to the latest headlines. Pathetic.
yes,killerwhale is a misnomer
(02-25-2010, 12:04 PM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]I get a kick out of people, really I do. We have always kept animals in captivity for our own amusement and we always will. All animals were once wild till we domesticated them. There are far more pressing issues on the table to be distracted with this bleeding heart kind of distraction. Just my opinion but come on people there are people being killed every day and don't get a seconds oh my god out of anyone. We just shut the fuck up and hope it's all bullshit and turn our eyes to the latest headlines. Pathetic.
so the fact people are dying and the fact we've always been cruel to animals makes it okay? i see where you're coming from. actually i don't

what has keeping animals in captivity and people dying got to do with each other. why would making it illegal to keep wales as pets have anything to do with the genocide in darfur? or maybe they have.
maybe we see that it's okay to treat animals this way, fuck it. let's treat people the same. maybe it's because people no longer have a moral stand point or high ground collectively that let's them basically do what the fuck they want.

the headlines? give me a break. most of it is hyped to shit. we had an earthquake in haiti and one in chile.

will people be treated differently there because we ban whales from being put into captivity. look at the headlines. mot headlines nowdays is put up by the media with some perverted point of fucking view.
in haiti we had doctor fuckin gupta from cnn looking like he was doing all the doctoring by himself.

then we have amanpour looking like she's solving the middle east crises on her own. please don't bring the bastardized headlines into this. they have no bearing whatsoever. a doctor doesn't just heal people. he has a life. he thinks and talks and has emotions about his world. he can do both things.

man may kill man through some notion of valour, right, greed, hate or other emotional need. but because they do doesn't mean it's okay to treat animals who do us no harm as if we own them.

pretty soon we won't have any animals like these to put in a fuckin swimming pool. pretty soon the lack of an animal population and fish population will be one of our biggest problems. pretty soon if this shit keeps happening you wont have a bear to fuckin hunt and then what will you worry about. hunting or someone being killed?

were wiping the species of this planet out so fast the only outcome will be the destruction of our race. why can't we just leave nature as it is.

lets kill the whales, lets let the polar bears become extinct who gives a fuck. you think not solving or sorting these moral bleeding heart ideals out mean we'll do more on the more serious shit. well we won't we'll let the animals get slaughtered and while we're at we still won't give a fuck about whats going on. we've grown immune to than nasty shit we do to each other. it no longer entertains us. instead we go to fuckin seaworld to watch the pets in captivity. (i think i'll clean this post up and throw it post in my blog)Big Grin

Benny2guns

Actually your argument sucks balls. Yes we own them and yes we have the right to do with them as we see fit. More to the point, the U.N. has the right as they have taken over most parks and wildlife preserves world wide. Your opinion does not matter at all to the global elite. It's all bullshit and baffled brains at this point. As long as there is big money for the elite in it it will continue, business as usuall. The elite also control the so called green movements and animal rights bleeding hearts clubs. Wake up man, your screaming about the damn whales while FEMA concentration camps are being built to put you and me on show.
(03-01-2010, 07:51 PM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]Actually your argument sucks balls. Yes we own them and yes we have the right to do with them as we see fit. More to the point, the U.N. has the right as they have taken over most parks and wildlife preserves world wide. Your opinion does not matter at all to the global elite. It's all bullshit and baffled brains at this point. As long as there is big money for the elite in it it will continue, business as usuall. The elite also control the so called green movements and animal rights bleeding hearts clubs. Wake up man, your screaming about the damn whales while FEMA concentration camps are being built to put you and me on show.
we don't have fema here.
and contrary to what you believe we don't own them. control them maybe but to say we own them. and in these wildlife parks. you hunt out of season or without a license. btw. a swimming pool is not a wildlife preserve.
i find it ironic that you scream about fema in a why do we harm animals thread. i cannot for the life of me see the relevance?
are you saying we shouldn't bother about anything but fema?

that someone who feels it wrong to take animals from the wild and pen them in a swimming pool makes is a bleeding heart.

are you saying we as people are only able to discuss fema?
that we can't or shouldn't discuss whatever we want?

if you are then isn't it a bit like fema, aren't you trying to control us within the confines of this discussion?

isn't it possible to have views on a multitude of topics?
i think so. and because of that i asked is it right or wrong to hold animals like whales in captivity. personally i couldn't give a toss about fema and conspiracy theories. so me comparing the two would be rather silly.

captive whales. i say it's wrong. as are many other things in life. when it comes to thinking things are wrong i'm capable of do that. thinking about more than one topicWink
anyway,i wonder what they're gonna do with that orka,i would say he's fed up so let it go but i wouldn't be surprised they'll shoot it instead

Benny2guns

Well no bill, what I am saying is that what we think on the subject does not matter man. The things I speak of are not theory's bill but fact, all well documented by the way. Weather or not I agree or disagree with whales being kept in captivity or any other wild animal for that matter is irrelevant because I have no controll over what the corporations do or don't do that is the real issue here. If we had any sort of control what so ever then of course this would not be happening, that to my mind is no more than common sense, common to me yes but common to alot of others also. The FEMA thing is very relevant bill and weather you believe there are camps there or not there are but still...the same corporations that run and profit from wild animals in captivity bill are building the camps, they run FEMA. They are also the people that are putting together a world government. This is not a conspiracy theory any longer billy, this stuff is all documented and is in fact happening as we speak man. No I do not support keeping wild animals in captivity but until we put a stop to the new world order there is nothing that you or I can do about it. Thats the point billy.
i'm not asking if you have any control over anything benny.
i'm simply asking is it right or wrong to keep these animals in a swimming pool etc. should the companies be closed down in your opinion or left to show us how beautiful a captive whale looks. it's just a question to discuss benny.

comparing it to fema, darfur haiti or anything else is like comparing oranges to apple. to say, we have more important things to worry about, why can't we worry about everything.

Benny2guns

(03-01-2010, 09:45 PM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]i'm not asking if you have any control over anything benny.
i'm simply asking is it right or wrong to keep these animals in a swimming pool etc. should the companies be closed down in your opinion or left to show us how beautiful a captive whale looks. it's just a question to discuss benny.

comparing it to fema, darfur haiti or anything else is like comparing oranges to apple. to say, we have more important things to worry about, why can't we worry about everything.

I've already answered your question billy, read it again. You can not close it down at this time for the reason's I have stated. Right or wrong does not mater but i'll say it again...no I believe it is wrong but there is nothing that you or I can do about it untill the other issues are resolved. You can not stop something from the bottom, you have to cut the head off of the dragon.
(03-01-2010, 09:51 PM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-01-2010, 09:45 PM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]i'm not asking if you have any control over anything benny.
i'm simply asking is it right or wrong to keep these animals in a swimming pool etc. should the companies be closed down in your opinion or left to show us how beautiful a captive whale looks. it's just a question to discuss benny.

comparing it to fema, darfur haiti or anything else is like comparing oranges to apple. to say, we have more important things to worry about, why can't we worry about everything.
I've already answered your question billy, read it again. You can not close it down at this time for the reason's I have stated. Right or wrong does not mater but i'll say it again...no I believe it is wrong but there is nothing that you or I can do about it untill the other issues are resolved. You can not stop something from the bottom, you have to cut the head off of the dragon.
people could make it a less viable business proposition. you already help, will you be going to seaworld? because that's something we all have in our control. we can refuse to take our kids there. sadly people enjoy seeing these animals outside of their normal habitats Confused

they got them to free willy (no puns please) how hard would it be to free the others?

Benny2guns

(03-02-2010, 06:12 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-01-2010, 09:51 PM)Benny2guns Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-01-2010, 09:45 PM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]i'm not asking if you have any control over anything benny.
i'm simply asking is it right or wrong to keep these animals in a swimming pool etc. should the companies be closed down in your opinion or left to show us how beautiful a captive whale looks. it's just a question to discuss benny.

comparing it to fema, darfur haiti or anything else is like comparing oranges to apple. to say, we have more important things to worry about, why can't we worry about everything.

I've already answered your question billy, read it again. You can not close it down at this time for the reason's I have stated. Right or wrong does not mater but i'll say it again...no I believe it is wrong but there is nothing that you or I can do about it untill the other issues are resolved. You can not stop something from the bottom, you have to cut the head off of the dragon.

people could make it a less viable business proposition. you already help, will you be going to seaworld? because that's something we all have in our control. we can refuse to take our kids there. sadly people enjoy seeing these animals outside of their normal habitats Confused

they got them to free willy (no puns please) how hard would it be to free the others?
I have never been there and my kids have never either. We try not to support anything to do with the power elite but it is very hard to to. The bastards are into everything.
Walt Disney is band here, propaganda machine for the elite.
This is the best way to stop them short of bearing arms and starting to shoot the bastards which at some point it may come to. Tell as many people that you can what you know, they may know that something is not right, most people do but can never put their fingers on just what it is. Thats what they have done to us over the years. When I present people with facts in person and I see the light in their eyes when the dots start to connect in their imprisoned minds it makes it all worth it.