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A hidden file in iPhones and iPads called consolidated.db allows the device to store a long list of locations and time stamps. The information is non-encrypted, so it can be read by someone who can gain access to your mobile device. Also the database of your location is restored across backups, and even device migrations.


Here is a link to an application that allows you to view the location database your device has made of your movements, in geographical map form


Apple has issued a statement, saying that the location triangulation data is read by Apple every 12 hours, and used by Apple to provide quicker, more precise, and more efficient location services. However this does not explain why the database is stored in the device ad infinitum, easily accessible.


I don't necessarily think Apple is trying to pull one over its customers, but still, that's some pretty sloppy product development if it was an "accident". They just didn't think hard enough about their customers and how something like this could be a problem especially since they didn't explicitly warn about it, they just fixed things from their end.
apple may not be using for anything other than knowing where the phone is so it can updaye certain applications but to have a need to keep hold of such info for so long seems odd. i'd say it could definitely be used as a marketing tool by iself, if not by others.

here's a link to the article i featured which i picked up from one of the comment on the original article. i found this one to be much more disturbing:
Michigan: Police Search Cell Phones During Traffic Stops
ACLU seeks information on Michigan program that allows cops to download information from smart phones belonging to stopped motorists.

CelleBriteThe Michigan State Police have a high-tech mobile forensics device that can be used to extract information from cell phones belonging to motorists stopped for minor traffic violations. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Michigan last Wednesday demanded that state officials stop stonewalling freedom of information requests for information on the program.

ACLU learned that the police had acquired the cell phone scanning devices and in August 2008 filed an official request for records on the program, including logs of how the devices were used. The state police responded by saying they would provide the information only in return for a payment of $544,680. The ACLU found the charge outrageous.

"Law enforcement officers are known, on occasion, to encourage citizens to cooperate if they have nothing to hide," ACLU staff attorney Mark P. Fancher wrote. "No less should be expected of law enforcement, and the Michigan State Police should be willing to assuage concerns that these powerful extraction devices are being used illegally by honoring our requests for cooperation and disclosure."

A US Department of Justice test of the CelleBrite UFED used by Michigan police found the device could grab all of the photos and video off of an iPhone within one-and-a-half minutes. The device works with 3000 different phone models and can even defeat password protections.

"Complete extraction of existing, hidden, and deleted phone data, including call history, text messages, contacts, images, and geotags," a CelleBrite brochure explains regarding the device's capabilities. "The Physical Analyzer allows visualization of both existing and deleted locations on Google Earth. In addition, location information from GPS devices and image geotags can be mapped on Google Maps."

The ACLU is concerned that these powerful capabilities are being quietly used to bypass Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches.

"With certain exceptions that do not apply here, a search cannot occur without a warrant in which a judicial officer determines that there is probable cause to believe that the search will yield evidence of criminal activity," Fancher wrote. "A device that allows immediate, surreptitious intrusion into private data creates enormous risks that troopers will ignore these requirements to the detriment of the constitutional rights of persons whose cell phones are searched."

The national ACLU is currently suing the Department of Homeland Security for its policy of warrantless electronic searches of laptops and cell phones belonging to people entering the country who are not suspected of committing any crime.
Holy crap that's getting out of hand.

A lot of people are concerned with online/digital freedom, which is a good thing, but digital security should be paid equal concern... not just in random privacy scares like what happened in this or in facebook, but a sustained public push to hold institutions accountable and to make laws against this kind of shite.
thing it's the googles and the facebooks and the twitter accounts that started the ball rolling in sites gathering info about us, it was a natural progression for the security forces and police to want to monitor what the social media sites do. same with apple. the security forces can monitor you by your cell phone. could do for a while but the apple revelation takes it to a new level
advertising is all about information now. why should apple be different than Google. why should the police be different than apple. pretty soon they'll be an app that allows you to type in a name and address and the app will tell you where that person is and how long he's been there. firms will use it to see works at a macdonalds wifi when they should be off sick. i think it's more a case of little brother than big, it's much more insidious the orwell ever dreamed it could be.
I think there's a website like that for US residents, where you type in a name and you can find a person's address, telephone number, links to them in social networks, I think you can even find details like their credit in some cases... have to track that down.
yeah but will it tell you everywhere they went over the last year, what clothes they bought, what software etc, it looks like apple is nearing such a feat.
Holy shit, have you seen this? (TomTom is, apparently, a Dutch GPS provider)

TomTom satnav data used to set police speed traps
tom tom are raking it in two ways,

(i had a tom tom in the uk) while you're driving it tells
you where all the road cams are so you can slow down and avoid a speeding ticket.
it's the main reason we buy the tom tom
they also sell the routes we use to the police so they can then sell us updates as to where the new cams are.
cheeky bastards at the best of times
they say they now only keep the info for a week and it can't be traced to a sopecific user in order to see where they went.
it's still using the info to trace migration of people going from a to b and as such are able to use this info for marketing and sales of of certain patterns. the easiest thing to do is never use a registered phone. or just register it in someone elses name.
i still can't see why people use i phone, ipad etc.
i'm using a phone that's registered in my mate's name who lives in england where he also uses a phone,his where abouts must show some interesting patterns
(05-08-2011, 11:45 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]i still can't see why people use i phone, ipad etc.

Because it's marketed as "cool" and like with many other things, people buy into the hype... it's why many secretly terrible products flourish in the free market Smile
i try never to register my phones, though i'm sure i could be found easy enough if they wanted me. Big Grin
yes,but why make it easy,eh?
the bastards mainly want you to register so they can send you offers to get their fantastic monthly plan offers that include free none free phones. now it's all about knowing what you do so they can sell you other shit. the police and security services love it because they can keep an eye on anyone they want.
Yeah, I've developed a near paranoid hate for those "special offers and services" they keep sending to your phone as a pretext for putting you into their database of suckers Sad
anyone who rings you who doesn't know you and tries to sell you stuff or makes free offers you can't refuse should be shot Angry
if the gov needs to know where i am they don't need my telephone number to find meAngry
and apple have no need to know where i am. the phone cells send out signals and i use them the same with wi fi
apple and others have no need to know where i am or what i'm fucking buying.
my wife was getting unasked for cricket updates on her phone and charged for it
sounds like her phones been cloned. tell her to get another one if it's not a monthly plan one, if it is
tell her to tell her phone supplier her numbers been cloned.
i went to the shop and they stopped it,which means it came from the provider i think
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