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The minimum age for someone to be able to open a facebook account is 13 years old... this complies with a law that prohibits collecting/soliciting personal info online from kids younger than 13.

What do you think of this rule for facebook (and other social media sites)? Personally I think 13 is an okay age for it, but there are people who want to the minimum age raised and I can see where their coming from. The kind of information kids slip onto facebook without a second thought... pics, locations, addresses, personal conversations... can make them targets for cyber criminals who prey on the naivete of the young. What do you guys think?
I tend to agree with you addy, at 13 kids are all over the net, but solely relying on chronological age is not a sure sign of responsibility.
Parents can talk till their blue in the face about all the do's and don'ts for safety sake, but most kids by age 13 take in little of mom and dad say.
A solution maybe to implement classes on safe Internet usage.
My younger siblings both have facebook and they're under thirteenHuh
thing is kids sign up to face book in their droves well before they're thirteen.
while adults may take care not to put certain info up, it all comes to nought when the kids sign up
they do it anyway. no site can verify anyones age so whats the points. all you can do is make a law that charges the parents for the kids signing up and that wouldn't be a fair law. it can't be policed. at the end of the day kids will sign up adults will let them.
Billy is right. The "age limit" is nothing more than a red herring.

It's designed specifically to divert the attention of the uninformed and unreasonable vocal minority from the fact that the people running the site have no idea, can have no idea, and don't want to have any idea, of who is using it.
truth be told, kids under 13 probably make up a large percentage of facebook users.
we even have a facebook page for our bear.
facebook just announced it will make personal data available to 3rd parties,so there you go
(03-10-2011, 08:01 AM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]truth be told, kids under 13 probably make up a large percentage of facebook users.
we even have a facebook page for our bear.

So much has changed since I was a kid, as soon as we got home from school you changed into your play clothes then headed outside to play with friends until supper time.
Today a lot kids getting home from school head straight to the tv, or the computer ... hence an increase in child obesity due not only to poor diet but lack of activity.
Times have and are changing, and with social changes comes the need to educate kids on how to use the internet safely, which is why I think it would be a wise idea for the school system to implement safe internet practices to kids at an early age.
(03-11-2011, 03:12 AM)velvetfog Wrote: [ -> ]Personally, I do not have a Facebook account. Nor am I planning to ever open one.

Oh, come on V, expand your horizons ... become adventurous Big Grin
I have an account ... it was solely for the purpose of keeping tabs on my son DodgyBig Grin as he was constantly out of minutes with his cell.
It's not my thing either.
I have my account set to receive e-mail notifications, which I generally just delete. Every once in a while I'll take a boo ... you have 56 notifications ... I then check out the list which is full of people all wanting to be friends and I have no clue who these people even are.
kath,it'll probably the fbi,cia,dea,homeland security,to name a few who are eager to become our friends[oops,alert level jumped to orange]
aren't we missing the point! they can set the age to 75 if they wish but they're is no way to enforce it except by using a retinal scan to get into the site and somehow i can't see that happening any time soon, and if it did i'm sure people would find find a way round it. (proxy retinal scans Smile )
i think the better way to go would be to have classes in school teaching kids not to put any personal stuff on any site and the reason why. education is the only way to go. advertise the horror stories and make people more aware of what their kids are doing. put a key logger on your pc. check what your young kids are up to and and if need be restrict their access. at least make it harder for them to screw up than it is.

i've seen really tech savvy kids of 15, 16, 17, putting stupid shit on the net simply because they haven't learned that you only share what you don't mind being seen.
Eventually, when a lot of people have been hurt a lot, a concerted education programme might be put in place which will over a generation or two change attitudes. But we're talking 20-30 maybe 40-50 years. See smoking and drinking and seatbelts and crash helmets and condoms and...

In the meantime, kid's peers reward them with social approval for sharing items which they find amusing or cute or sexy. No amount of adult disapproval is going to convince the girl trying to catch the eye of some boy that posting pics of herself in her underwear won't do the trick, or the boy posting videos for his mates of himself skulling half a bottle of vodka before climbing on to the roof of his house and jumping over the fence into his neighbour's spa pool that he isn't the coolest fucker ever.
true but at least make access a little harder for some of them. i suppose at the end of the day kids will be kids.
that said i've seen adults do silly shit like leave tel numbers and addresses on line.
Very interesting... facebook misuse may very well be that thing that this generation of youth will come to regret decades into the future (like drugs was for the sixties and seventies younguns).
couldn't agree with you more[except tobacco maybe]
(03-19-2011, 03:39 AM)velvetfog Wrote: [ -> ]I am not so sure your comparison is valid.

I avoid Facebook, but I have never regretted taking any of the drugs I indulged in during the sixties and seventies.
thats a single point of view. personally i think it's very valid. to me it looks like your assuming she's on about weed. i know many people whose live are screwed because of hard drugs, whiz freaks who brains are scrambled through paranoia. i personally say i don't regret my drug taimh you and i don't, i do however regret my drug taking adulthood.

people who lived on the high tend to feel more of the low later on in life. you only have to look at most inner city 50 and 60 year olds and you can see the regret in their faces.

were you heavily into drugs or was it recreational. if the later then yeah you probaly won't think it a valid comparison.

back on topic, i think many people are already at that stage of regretting face book.
i look at some of my friends and families pages and think WTF. they put up way to much shit about themselves.



(03-11-2011, 11:43 AM)Touchstone Wrote: [ -> ]Eventually, when a lot of people have been hurt a lot, a concerted education programme might be put in place which will over a generation or two change attitudes. But we're talking 20-30 maybe 40-50 years. See smoking and drinking and seatbelts and crash helmets and condoms and...

In the meantime, kid's peers reward them with social approval for sharing items which they find amusing or cute or sexy. No amount of adult disapproval is going to convince the girl trying to catch the eye of some boy that posting pics of herself in her underwear won't do the trick, or the boy posting videos for his mates of himself skulling half a bottle of vodka before climbing on to the roof of his house and jumping over the fence into his neighbour's spa pool that he isn't the coolest fucker ever.

I totally agree with you touchstone on every point you've made.
I've plenty of regrets all for the sake of a pretty boy's favor ... things I knew full well of.
And as kids will be kids, by implementing some sort of Internet safety program into the schools hopefully some will be spared pain and regret.
My girlfriend's daughter took in a girls night sleep-over that went from silly picture posting to a nightmare for the families.
for kids i think it's like smoking and drinking, adults do it they think they have to do it, they haven't yet had the experience of how bad people can be to realize that thought should be given as to what to post on the net, and by the time they get the experience it's too late even with education many will still do the silly deeds.
Yeah, kids tend to mimic adults, but push the behavior to a worse degree due to a still underdeveloped risk-reward judgment sense; psychologists and behaviorists have found that teenagers are wired to engage in risky behavior for what seems like very little payoff. Its why they're vulnerable to peer pressure. What's worse is that they don't understand that peer pressure isn't just about other kids bullying you into doing something you don't want to do: when people around you cheer you on into doing something stupid or harmful, that's a kind of peer pressure as well, the kind that most often gets someone into trouble.

Obviously, facebook won't be a horror story for everyone, but definitely it might be for some. I agree that education is the way to go, not just ofr facebook but for internet safety in general. Even at a young age kids need to understand that when they're on the internet, by default that means they're not just sitting in front of their computer in private, interacting just with their families and peers: they're exposing themselves to the world, and sometimes the impression they make can be permanent.
i think eventually some kind of government intervention will happen that restricts what can put up and what can't. i really thin we've a long way to go yet in and with internet policing on things like face book and twitter.

i agree with everything you say about kids and peer pressure.