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is god religious?

Lawrence

If he is, he's got quite the high self-esteem.
What an interesting question?
I think it depends on an individuals schooling and interpretation of what or who God is.
I grew up with religious teachings and they can easily become hardcoded into ones mind and not so easy to turn from (at least I found it difficult).
I do have more of my own thoughts as to what God is ... ideas that would shock my folks if they were still here with me.
With where I am in my walk now ... no I don't think God is religious ... people are religious.
i don't believe in a god,so actually the the religious question does not arise with me
(11-10-2010, 02:55 PM)srijantje Wrote: [ -> ]i don't believe in a god,so actually the the religious question does not arise with me

I'm curious then ... what prompted you to ask?
If you believe religious teachings that say that God pretty much mandated religion (sent ten commandments, sent Jesus to start a church, etc), then it follows that he would have to be religious in that sense.

If we assume he exists, I don't personally believe he would or could be faithful to the Church in the current state it's in Sad
(11-10-2010, 03:11 PM)addy Wrote: [ -> ]If you believe religious teachings that say that God pretty much mandated religion (sent ten commandments, sent Jesus to start a church, etc), then it follows that he would have to be religious in that sense.

If we assume he exists, I don't personally believe he would or could be faithful to the Church in the current state it's in Sad

I have to agree with you addy, I don't thinks there's too much that we have put our hands to that hasn't become amuck.Sad
(11-10-2010, 02:58 PM)kath3 Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2010, 02:55 PM)srijantje Wrote: [ -> ]i don't believe in a god,so actually the the religious question does not arise with me

I'm curious then ... what prompted you to ask?
velvet fog


all of it would be god's work,wouldn't it?
(11-10-2010, 03:11 PM)addy Wrote: [ -> ]If you believe religious teachings that say that God pretty much mandated religion (sent ten commandments, sent Jesus to start a church, etc), then it follows that he would have to be religious in that sense.

If we assume he exists, I don't personally believe he would or could be faithful to the Church in the current state it's in Sad
first invent a church and then not be responsible for priests putting their hands in little boys pants?

he supposedly created man,so he's responsible for their conduct
He gave us free choice. What we do with that freedom is our own doing.
if he gave us free choice,what's the point in having him around?
That's the oddity of God as religion seems to uphold him... god is this all powerful, omnipotent being, who has a tendency to let his own creations kind of run away from him? (lucifer, mankind, etc) If he/she did plan to build a church, probably the same thing happened... a few basic rules he/she wanted following get twisted until they become the basics for some megalomanic power structure of a bunch of old men LOL

Also we're supposed to believe that god cares less about the greater inequities of the mortal world (millions spent on stuff like plastic surgery on one side of the world while on the other side children still starve to death) and is more riled up about stupid things like smiting people for having sex :wanker:.
There are many reasons ... for guidance, comfort, friendship, for strength, to give thanks to.
it's gone beyond me now,i'll go with john lennon,who said ,god is a concept by which we measure our pain
Sentience and free choice is quite special with humans because of how far we can take it with our powers, specifically our understanding and intellect. A dog could do very little with his sentience, whereas us humans can sit around pondering the concept of god... and even rejecting it. What we did with our sentience is remake and destroy the world to our whims, a power which we though only god had, or which we only blamed god for.

Guess to make a long point short, a simple dog could never, ever have come up with such a fantastic screw-up equal to the church Smile
(11-11-2010, 02:38 PM)velvetfog Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, the human needs to have something to hold onto and to believe in, are so great,
that if god didn't exist, we would have to invent him, just to maintain our sanity.

You may very well be right VF. Wink
I probably shouldn't even be in this discussion as my ideas of God are changing. The input I do give comes from my upbringing and conditioning which sometimes gets in the way of my own and new thoughts. One thing for sure, as long as I live I will never deny his existence I've had too many experiences to go that route.
is god religious?

let's assume that god is an entity. let's assume he created the commandments and us and all that goes with it.
it still doesn't make god religious. if he gave us free will, then that should be the end of it as far as i can see.
wanting adoration isn't the same as being religious. to all sense and purpose it looks like he doesn't give a toss about us.
who does he follow? who does he pray to? himself. he says that all who believe in him will enter heaven etc. if there is a god he must be very narcissistic.
(11-11-2010, 03:02 PM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]is god religious?

let's assume that god is an entity. let's assume he created the commandments and us and all that goes with it.
it still doesn't make god religious. if he gave us free will, then that should be the end of it as far as i can see.
wanting adoration isn't the same as being religious. to all sense and purpose it looks like he doesn't give a toss about us.
who does he follow? who does he pray to? himself. he says that all who believe in him will enter heaven etc. if there is a god he must be very narcissistic.

This is were my thoughts come in ... I don't believe He/She created the commandments nor any of the laws within the bible. I believe the bible was written by man though inspired of God (Goodness) with man adding and taking away from it.
I believe God is an energy force that put all of creation in motion and I'm not talking about the 7 days story. I believe He is a power that we are all able to tap into and the more we are willing the higher we ascend spiritually. I don't believe in a heaven or hell.

(11-11-2010, 03:02 PM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]to all sense and purpose it looks like he doesn't give a toss about us.

It sure looks that way doesn't it?
My thoughts are that all that we need is provided. We have to work / maintain / and look after all that has been given in order for our existence to continue.
We have from the beginning of time refused to abide by the laws and order of nature and through our arrogance we have made a mucky mess of things. Then many turn and blame God citing that he cares little for us. We're like spoiled children who have been given/provided every good thing and then blame our parents when life doesn't go as we think it should.
We are but a very small part of this planet but we have given ourselves a wrongful title to entitlement above all else. I don't believe his care extends to us more than an ant or leaf on a tree. His care is for all.


we are god, we created him in out own image and it's us who are religious. god just resides in the psyche
of some of us and tells us how bad or how loved we are, then you get the sensible people who just kill under a name they created because it's easier to explain away such atrocities