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Great thread. All the comments above are very honest and insightful. I, for one, found this forum a little by accident and feel like I've won the lottery. I love that the members spend as much time and thoughtful consideration on their crits and comments as they would on their own work. In my first few days here I read remarks that saved me months of heartache, repeating the same mistakes. - So, I post here because I want to improve, but equally because I want others to improve in an art form that we all care about.
As for "master poet" - It's such a paradoxical statement said in the first person, that I wouldn't know how to critique it, encourage it, or "delight" in it. - Delusional
big hug All we ever hope for is that people come here wanting to improve and help others to do the same.

Nobody knows it all. A Masters in poetry doesn't even make you a master poet -- anyone who thinks they've achieved everything they can in poetry should really just give up.
(07-16-2014, 11:20 AM)Leanne Wrote: [ -> ]big hug All we ever hope for is that people come here wanting to improve and help others to do the same.

Nobody knows it all. A Masters in poetry doesn't even make you a master poet -- anyone who thinks they've achieved everything they can in poetry should really just give up.

It takes a millennium or so postmortem to determine mastership.
(07-16-2014, 11:16 AM)Tiger the Lion Wrote: [ -> ]Great thread. All the comments above are very honest and insightful. I, for one, found this forum a little by accident and feel like I've won the lottery. I love that the members spend as much time and thoughtful consideration on their crits and comments as they would on their own work. In my first few days here I read remarks that saved me months of heartache, repeating the same mistakes. - So, I post here because I want to improve, but equally because I want others to improve in an art form that we all care about.
As for "master poet" - It's such a paradoxical statement said in the first person, that I wouldn't know how to critique it, encourage it, or "delight" in it. - Delusional
bravo,

                                Becoming What We Post (found already made)

"Computer-mediated environments (CMEs) are a conspicuous form of self-presentation. Their users seek to construct new identities by digitally associating themselves with idealized versions of the 'selves' they have witnessed during the interactive social process of participation. This attempt to reorganize the linear narrative structure of their lives creates a digital self that has become a new form of possession.

The users make their identities tangibly self-present by associating themselves with existing ideas, narratives, symbols, and signs contained in the perceived materiality of what they witness as their physical world.

Virtual digital constructs occupy neither space nor time. They are inherently discursive spaces where people actively convene to commune with others. These CMEs are increasingly supplementing, and in some cases replacing, social interactions formerly conducted in real time between individuals in the same location. The users of these CMEs have increased access to semiotic tools, cultural artifacts, and enhanced modes of expression.

Unhinged from the material constraints of the physical body, ownership, and proximity; these new modes of self-expression have recursively informed the discourse on self-presentation. CMEs diffuse the distinctions of material and immaterial, of possible and impossible. As these dualities erode, imagination will, at first, become the equal of physical capital. In the end, they will be indistinguishable.

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so we're all fucked



Sad
(07-16-2014, 01:33 PM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]so we're all fucked Sad

The people who have lots of physical capital ($$$) are fucked.
People with virtual capital (created using the imagination) will be unfucked.

While most of the found-already-made article above is academic bullshit,
I truly love that last line. I'd rephrase it to: "Virtual capital (created using
the imagination) will become the equal of physical capital."

Do I really think that will happen? Ha, ha, ha, ha --- $$$ already buys,
or buys the suppression of, any virtual capital that $$$ finds useful
(i.e. profitable).

The beauty of poetry (the virtual capital we create and refine here)
is that $$$ finds it worthless.

As long as poetry remains worthless, it will remain free.

Love is priceless.

(07-16-2014, 11:56 PM)rayheinrich Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-16-2014, 01:33 PM)billy Wrote: [ -> ]so we're all fucked Sad

The people who have lots of physical capital ($$$) are fucked.
People with virtual capital (created using the imagination) will be unfucked.

While most of the found-already-made article above is academic bullshit,
I truly love that last line. I'd rephrase it to: "Virtual capital (created using
the imagination) will become the equal of physical capital."

Do I really think that will happen? Ha, ha, ha, ha --- $$$ already buys,
or buys the suppression of, any virtual capital that $$$ finds useful
(i.e. profitable).

The beauty of poetry (the virtual capital we create and refine here)
is that $$$ finds it worthless.

As long as poetry remains worthless, it will remain free.

Love is priceless.


Big GrinBig GrinBig Grin <<<me and my imaginary friends
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